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Youth 14 Men’s Saber (Y14MS)

National Championships and July Challenge (Summer Nationals)Thursday, July 3, 2025 at 8:00 AM

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Baird Center · Milwaukee, WI
310 approved entrants 8 strength bands

Strength distribution

Finish Range Average Range
1 - 4 3020 3101 - 2865
5 - 8 2715 2765 - 2649
9 - 16 2570 2619 - 2529
17 - 32 2464 2525 - 2406
33 - 64 2327 2439 - 2214
65 - 128 2101 2210 - 1997
129 - 256 1823 2017 - 1572
257 - 310 1359 1816 - 652

Registrations
1 Tse, Aiden J Premier Fencing Academy A25 3101 2843.70
2 Li, Howard Eagle Blade Fencers Club A24 3091 2825.74
3 Ng, Jonathan Durkan Fencing Academy A25 3023 2765.99
4 Kovalev, Daniil West Coast Fencing Academy B25 2865 2610.53
5 Chambers, Miles Tim Morehouse Fencing Club B24 2765 2503.03
6 Hwang, Jayden LA Fencing Academy of Pomona A24 2739 2487.16
7 Andres, Michael Cali Fencing B24 2707 2453.79
8 Wei, Rian Capital Fencing Academy B25 2649 2395.38
9 Yang, Phillip South Bay Fencing Academy B25 2619 2367.58
10 Sanchez, Jacob San Diego Fencing Center B25 2596 2337.58
11 Cricol, Damian Premier Fencing Academy C25 2591 2328.07
12 Kang, Matthew Premier Fencing Academy B25 2568 2318.31
13 Tani, Tino Southern California Fencing Academy (SOCALFA) C25 2565 2308.72
14 Liu, Victor Sigma Fencing Academy D25 2552 2299.21
15 Zhao, Royce Tim Morehouse Fencing Club D25 2536 2284.38
16 Kitson, Chase Globus Fencing Academy B25 2529 2278.10
17 Clark, Aram Tim Morehouse Fencing Club D25 2525 2276.16
18 Khanna, Adamantis Boston Fencing Club D25 2524 2265.59
19 Lucas, William Tim Morehouse Fencing Club U 2501 2251.41
20 Biviji, Ali Cobra Fencing Club LLC C25 2495 2241.99
21 Dominique, Remson Escrimeur Fencers Club B25 2493 2240.33
22 Li, Ayden Southern California Fencing Academy (SOCALFA) C25 2476 2229.11
23 Nardini, Nathanael Cobra Fencing Club LLC B25 2468 2216.78
24 Gu, Andrew LA Fencing Academy of Pomona D25 2472 2216.59
25 Im, Tyler Spartak C25 2451 2195.83
26 Yook, Isaac Tim Morehouse Fencing Club B24 2443 2192.86
27 Luc, Cedric Eagle Blade Fencers Club C25 2446 2191.97
28 Oh, Aster Scarsdale Fencing Center B25 2437 2188.68
29 Isayenko, Daniel Manhattan Fencing Center U 2451 2187.19
30 Kang, Jeremy Premier Fencing Academy E25 2422 2168.12
31 Zhang, Kaixuan Globus Fencing Academy B25 2410 2160.66
32 Dai, Zihou Tim Morehouse Fencing Club D25 2406 2158.36
33 Cao, Donald West Coast Fencing Academy C25 2404 2154.07
34 Li, Yidong Laguna Fencing Center C25 2398 2149.12
35 Kozlov, Lucas Manhattan Fencing Center U 2401 2147.00
36 Brimmer, Robert (Trey) Las Vegas Fencing Academy D25 2396 2143.24
37 Grigoriev, Roman Premier Fencing Academy D25 2401 2142.52
38 Bollu, Viren Globus Fencing Academy C24 2388 2139.06
39 Wang, Tiger Eagle Blade Fencers Club D23 2387 2136.37
40 Greenstein, Viktor LA International Fencing D25 2392 2136.18
41 Lee, Brian West Coast Fencing Academy D25 2374 2121.03
42 Lee, Nathan Uju Southern California Fencing Academy (SOCALFA) D25 2368 2115.20
43 Srivats, Vedh Tim Morehouse Fencing Club D24 2367 2113.24
44 Iyer, Neil Halberstadt Fencers' Club C25 2358 2111.32
45 Gurevich, Benjamin Alle Fencing Club C24 2362 2110.60
46 Karavas, Nicholas Fencing Academy Of Boston D25 2357 2106.37
47 Wong, Max Manhattan Fencing Center B25 2356 2098.92
48 Bai, Evan Aura Fencing Academy C24 2337 2087.99
49 Huchwajda, Alex Research Triangle Fencing C25 2439 2087.51
50 Li, Huangziyue Globus Fencing Academy D25 2332 2079.05
51 YU, BOWEN Lone Star Fencing Center C25 2319 2067.20
52 Agarwaal, Yohan Cobra Fencing Club LLC E25 2316 2066.18
53 Ji, Johnson American Institute Of Fencing C25 2309 2058.43
54 Burgess, Beckham Athens Fencing Club B25 2307 2044.88
55 Koren, George Dynamo Fencing Center Inc. U 2268 2012.34
56 McDonald, Finn Delaware Valley Fencers Club-PA C25 2260 2009.67
57 Henry, Cadel Forge Fencing Teams DUR D24 2264 2005.00
58 Anand, Rishab Nellya Fencers E24 2243 1990.56
59 Wang, Alex Globus Fencing Academy D25 2233 1985.82
60 Rinaldi, Savio Capital Fencing Academy C25 2226 1976.36
61 Levy, Daniel Nazlymov Fencing Foundation U 2226 1973.93
62 Dooley, Atticus Spartak D25 2232 1970.84
63 Vo, Blake Premier Fencing Academy E25 2220 1964.42
64 Novosyolok, Zachary Cobra Fencing Club LLC E24 2214 1958.33
65 Xiao, Brayden West Coast Fencing Academy E25 2209 1956.21
66 Sassi, Ilyas International Fencing Club C24 2210 1952.31
67 Beland, Riley James "RJ" American Institute Of Fencing E25 2207 1951.97
68 Chan, Henry San Francisco Sabre School D25 2203 1951.13
69 Miao, Heqi Advance Fencing And Fitness Academy E25 2201 1950.76
70 Sadhu, Neiyam Aura Fencing Academy C25 2194 1945.60
71 Lim Juwana, Maximilian Manhattan Fencing Center U 2184 1934.87
72 Wong, David Premier Fencing Academy D25 2189 1930.87
73 Chang, Ethan Nazlymov Fencing Foundation D25 2184 1930.59
74 Siddamshetty, Ishaan Globus Fencing Academy D25 2183 1923.76
75 Hwang, Hagan LA Fencing Academy of Pomona D24 2170 1918.07
76 Kaul, Ishaan Nellya Fencers U 2181 1917.62
77 Lee, Brady Globus Fencing Academy C24 2166 1913.80
78 Beal, Colton Manhattan Fencing Center U 2155 1901.27
79 Johnson, Leland DC Fencers Club E25 2176 1897.94
80 Song, Aidan Tim Morehouse Fencing Club U 2146 1896.02
81 Liu, Aaron Nellya Fencers D24 2152 1894.98
82 Saldarini, Glenn Cobra Fencing Club LLC D25 2151 1894.93
83 HAHN, EVER Manhattan Fencing Center U 2165 1894.49
84 Wang, Theodore Tim Morehouse Fencing Club E25 2153 1894.46
85 Feng, Brendan Miracle Fencing Club C25 2135 1882.12
86 Li, Michael Premier Fencing Club U 2147 1867.06
87 Zwaka, Jonas Sheridan Fencing Academy E25 2120 1866.11
88 Minasian, Mason Spartak U 2120 1859.86
89 Wong, Mac Manhattan Fencing Center D25 2144 1855.11
90 Wang, Edward Dynamo Fencing Center Inc. E25 2120 1853.52
91 Lamtan, Christoffer Manhattan Fencing Center D25 2099 1851.33
92 Suh, Leo Manhattan Fencing Center D25 2099 1849.39
93 Liang, Morgan Long Island Fencing Center U 2100 1843.19
94 Slavnov, Anton Capital Fencing Academy E25 2094 1842.09
95 Yu, Ian Lone Star Fencing Center D25 2093 1836.68
96 Chen, Cooper West Coast Fencing Academy E25 2080 1828.28
97 Tang, Morgan Halberstadt Fencers' Club E25 2079 1827.54
98 Wong, Reagan Manhattan Fencing Center D25 2088 1823.46
99 Orie, Sohan Sheridan Fencing Academy U 2116 1820.41
100 Lin, Brendan Cobra Fencing Club LLC U 2072 1819.17
101 Mermegas, Alexander Tim Morehouse Fencing Club D25 2073 1817.15
102 Kania, Alexander Midwest Fencing Club E24 2065 1813.69
103 ChenHe, YuHan RedStar Fencing Club Chicago C25 2097 1802.24
104 Hu, Harry Nellya Fencers E23 2059 1799.75
105 Ferris Jr., Michael PDX Fencing E25 2091 1795.69
106 Ong, Dylan International Fencing Club C25 2047 1794.95
107 Briseno, Ethan Nellya Fencers U 2082 1794.86
108 Perrin, Leo Nazlymov Fencing Foundation E25 2066 1786.36
109 Nambiar, Navin Globus Fencing Academy C25 2041 1784.06
110 Nair, Sujit Salle Auriol Seattle D25 2053 1781.77
111 Bosita, Brennan Globus Fencing Academy D25 2035 1780.35
112 Crawford, William Zeta Fencing E25 2041 1775.50
113 Liu, Ethan Nellya Fencers E25 2061 1775.21
114 CAO, HAOTIAN Alpha Fencing Academy U 2035 1772.89
115 Shapiro, Leo Tim Morehouse Fencing Club U 2020 1772.39
116 Lin, Alex Globus Fencing Academy E25 2031 1771.07
117 Badmus, Joshua Capital Fencing Academy U 2030 1766.02
118 Zhu, Matthew Midwest Fencing Club D25 2053 1765.82
119 Mele, Gianni Tim Morehouse Fencing Club E25 2050 1762.20
120 Loo, Jason Manhattan Fencing Center D25 2014 1760.56
121 Salman, Hamzah Globus Fencing Academy C25 2016 1753.36
122 Brooks, Theo Capital Fencing Academy U 2016 1750.88
123 Kovachev, Martin West Coast Fencing Academy C25 2013 1749.36
124 D'Amelj, Edoardo Nazlymov Fencing Foundation U 1999 1745.72
125 Hao, Johnny Southern California Fencing Academy (SOCALFA) U 2002 1745.09
126 Levy, Jack Sheridan Fencing Academy U 2070 1743.70
127 Bekdjanov, Arthur Premier Fencing Academy E25 2011 1742.53
128 Srivatsav, Ishaan Cardinal Fencing Club E25 1997 1737.39
129 Wong, Ron LA Fencing Academy of Pomona E24 1996 1736.33
130 Yuen, Caleb LA Fencing Academy of Pomona U 1981 1731.01
131 Brown, Andrew Spartak E25 2003 1726.59
132 Barenboym, Michael Sheridan Fencing Academy E25 1986 1725.43
133 Anumula, Aryan Halberstadt Fencers' Club D25 1990 1723.30
134 Lin, Patrick Midwest Fencing Club E25 2004 1720.66
135 Meade, Liam Texas Sabre Academy D24 1974 1718.43
136 An, Chris (Siyoung) Southern California Fencing Academy (SOCALFA) U 1990 1718.08
137 Lau, Kyrus Aura Fencing Academy U 1965 1715.54
138 Sage, Nikolai Scarsdale Fencing Center C25 1999 1705.87
139 Avery, Marcus Tim Morehouse Fencing Club U 1956 1704.53
140 Martinson, Torm Manhattan Fencing Center U 1961 1704.08
141 Berkowitz, Gavin Allegro Fencing Center E23 1991 1700.60
142 Yang, Justin Alpha Fencing Academy U 1968 1694.87
143 Liu, Ryan Manhattan Fencing Center E25 1945 1692.87
144 Ching, Grant US Sabre Academy U 2017 1690.07
145 Stolcke, Julian Manhattan Fencing Center U 1951 1685.39
146 Wu, Vincent Aura Fencing Academy U 1933 1679.22
147 Huang, Caleb Globus Fencing Academy E25 1983 1677.21
148 ou, Rigel LA Fencing Academy of Pomona U 1937 1671.94
149 Gordon, Samuel Zeta Fencing E25 1954 1671.90
150 So, Morgan Tim Morehouse Fencing Club U 1926 1668.09
151 Liu, Jayden Capital Fencing Academy U 1928 1667.44
152 Biviji, Adam Cobra Fencing Club LLC U 1928 1663.37
153 ZHANG, KAIQI West Coast Fencing Academy E25 1911 1657.78
154 Taycher, Aaron Dynamo Fencing Center Inc. U 1916 1655.37
155 Mattoo, Dhruv Tim Morehouse Fencing Club E25 1931 1647.82
156 Chen, Shawn Globus Fencing Academy C25 1915 1646.94
157 Welstead, Nicholas Dynamo Fencing Center Inc. E23 1921 1646.13
158 LIU, ERIC International Fencing Club U 1912 1646.12
159 Hristov, Nickolas Premier Fencing Academy U 1914 1643.93
160 Bukzin, Alan Nova Fencing Club U 1918 1641.43
161 Lee, Ryan Escrimeur Fencers Club U 1915 1640.90
162 Lorenz, Evan Candlewood Fencing Center D24 1910 1640.83
163 Gatto, Enzo Spartak U 1919 1638.96
164 Dostal, Maximilian Cobra Fencing Club LLC U 1903 1632.18
165 Wang, David Avant Garde Fencers Club, Inc (CA) (AGFC) U 1885 1625.98
166 Soules-ONo, Makoa Halberstadt Fencers' Club U 1915 1620.37
167 Chi, Everett West Coast Fencing Academy E25 1876 1619.08
168 Paul, James Capital Fencing Academy E25 1891 1615.36
169 Tasikas, Peter Rochester Fencing Club U 1872 1612.67
170 Moon, Noah Fencing Sports Academy, Inc. U 1922 1611.67
171 Li, Ryan Laguna Fencing Center U 1862 1610.04
172 Liu, Guanyu Globus Fencing Academy D25 1874 1609.93
173 Nayagam, Nishant Manhattan Fencing Center E24 1929 1607.92
174 Shankar, Rahm Sabio Fencing Academy E25 1860 1602.77
175 Stys, Owen RedStar Fencing Club Chicago U 1869 1588.54
176 Chen, Kevin Globus Fencing Academy E25 1887 1587.49
177 Holmes, Xavier Salle Auriol Seattle U 1841 1585.89
178 Wang, James The Fencing Center U 1829 1580.74
179 Liebowitz, Carson Manhattan Fencing Center D25 1839 1578.70
180 Kim, Yusung Globus Fencing Academy D25 1849 1578.46
181 Mberia, Alexander Northwest Indiana Fencing Club E25 1865 1575.14
182 abada, lucca IndySabre U 1885 1571.11
183 Naftali, Ori Midwest Fencing Club D25 1838 1569.64
184 Duff, Michael Globus Fencing Academy U 1820 1564.48
185 Vu, Mark Bergen Fencing Club E25 1868 1561.81
186 Chavan, Aditya Unattached U 1814 1559.86
187 Chang, Timothy Tim Morehouse Fencing Club E25 1816 1557.76
188 Chan, Troy Rebel Fencing Club U 1816 1554.78
189 Narayan, Rishi Manhattan Fencing Center U 1834 1552.50
190 Losquadro, Joseph Mission Fencing Center E25 1827 1546.86
191 Zhang, Aiden Sigma Fencing Academy E25 1836 1545.98
192 Sun, Eon West Coast Fencing Academy U 1817 1544.69
193 Lu, Simon Lone Star Fencing Center U 1799 1540.59
194 Brooks, Drake Olympian Fencing Studio U 1793 1532.85
195 Liao, Sirui Miracle Fencing Club E25 1812 1530.87
196 Titov, Zachary Stamford Fencing Center, LLC U 1791 1526.99
197 Kim, Enoch Laguna Fencing Center U 1800 1524.20
198 Chou, Qianhao Forge Fencing Teams DUR U 1798 1522.33
199 Qi, Jeremy West Coast Fencing Academy U 1779 1519.45
200 Kim, Suin West Coast Fencing Academy U 1788 1513.95
201 Pak, Andrew Jacksonville Fencing Club D25 1803 1504.12
202 Brum, Charles West Coast Fencing Academy E24 1783 1502.39
203 Trzepla, Max Durkan Fencing Academy E25 1774 1501.80
204 Chawla, Abhishek Capital Fencing Academy E25 1792 1501.39
205 Shapiro, Simon Dynamo Fencing Center Inc. U 1792 1498.45
206 Yphantides, Alexander San Diego Fencing Center U 1833 1497.39
207 Favo, Christopher Alpha Fencing Academy U 1782 1496.59
208 Sierra, Gregory Fence St. Louis E25 1832 1489.99
209 Winterset, Mason South Bay Fencing Academy E25 1768 1489.88
210 Moulton, Andrew Washington Fencing Academy E25 1851 1478.52
211 Lee, Shane Gunn Brooklyn Bridge Fencing Club U 1758 1478.11
212 Fischer, Noel Las Vegas Fencing Academy U 1740 1477.95
213 Kuang, Cyrus Globus Fencing Academy U 1753 1476.84
214 Zhang, Lucas PDX Fencing E25 1786 1475.24
215 Masaki, Alex Premier Fencing Academy E25 1851 1469.29
216 Javier, Xavier Nazlymov Fencing Foundation U 1758 1464.31
217 Srivatsav, Anay Cardinal Fencing Club E25 1731 1460.98
218 Lyu, Tyler Sigma Fencing Academy E25 1754 1453.74
219 Liu, Yijin South Bay Fencing Academy D25 1710 1453.61
220 Kang, Jayden Sabio Fencing Academy E25 1723 1450.73
221 Teng, Lucas LA International Fencing E25 1745 1450.44
222 Tallarico, Leonardo LA International Fencing U 1933 1444.71
223 Chen, Aaron LA Fencing Academy of Pomona U 1699 1444.55
224 Zhang, Simon Advance Fencing And Fitness Academy U 1722 1441.78
225 Chan, Ewan Aura Fencing Academy U 1688 1435.33
226 Pi, Edwin Spartak U 1754 1430.06
227 Irvine, Patrick The Fencing Center C24 1745 1428.87
228 Suba, Mason Peter Westbrook Foundation U 1734 1420.67
229 Kane, Kiran Nova Fencing Club U 1761 1418.80
230 Clark, Brandon Renaissance Fencing Club E25 1706 1413.55
231 Evans, Alexander Miami Fencing Club U 1839 1411.14
232 Lin, Ethan Avant Garde Fencers Club, Inc (CA) (AGFC) U 1709 1407.31
233 Robinson, Ezra Fencing Academy Of Denver U 1685 1404.73
234 Burenkov, Matthew Zeta Fencing U 1693 1401.85
235 Howarth, Hayes International Fencing Club U 1680 1401.84
236 Zhang, Caleb Globus Fencing Academy U 1658 1401.29
237 Kamura, Kosei Globus Fencing Academy D25 1675 1389.77
238 Kauffman, Davian Salle Du Lion Fencing Center U 1796 1388.17
239 Mannino, Miller Sigma Fencing Academy E24 1767 1387.05
240 Lee, Damian Zeta Fencing E25 1680 1375.49
241 liu, Daniel San Diego Fencing Center E25 1639 1375.34
242 Padanilam, Thomas Nellya Fencers U 1745 1371.66
243 Ho, Alden Premier Fencing Academy U 1688 1367.70
244 Yeazel, Colin Forge Fencing Teams DUR U 1684 1363.50
245 Polsani, Gaurav Nellya Fencers U 1727 1347.64
246 Kondogi, Saivarun Sabio Fencing Academy E25 1620 1343.99
247 Dayama, Ronak Escrimeur Fencers Club U 1651 1337.83
248 Lee, Winston Laguna Fencing Center U 1651 1324.23
249 Gottschalk, Theodore United Fencers of Oakland U 1675 1322.00
250 Kohler, Vaughn Nellya Fencers U 1630 1318.79
251 Woster, Matthew Texas Sabre Academy E25 1646 1312.83
252 Yao, Zachary Sigma Fencing Academy D25 1665 1311.56
253 Smith, Etienne PDX Fencing U 1617 1310.58
254 Brooks, Isaac Capital Fencing Academy U 1588 1300.83
255 Ekambaram, Rithik San Diego Fencing Center U 1572 1299.68
256 Vish, Manyu Delaware Valley Fencers Club-PA U 1593 1293.22
257 Sun, Stephen Masters Fencing Academy NJ U 1591 1288.41
258 Moore, Blaise Forge Fencing Teams DUR U 1694 1287.96
259 Pipke, Garrett Nova Fencing Club U 1567 1262.91
260 Wang, Xuren Avant Garde Fencers Club, Inc (CA) (AGFC) U 1598 1252.06
261 Nagrani, Jai US Sabre Academy U 1604 1250.22
262 Na, Yuchan Zachary Washington Fencing Academy E24 1611 1243.28
263 Yang, Jake LA Fencing Academy of Pomona U 1548 1237.18
264 Guo, Jonathan South Bay Fencing Academy U 1485 1211.02
265 PADGETTE, BRODY LA International Fencing U 1816 1208.64
266 Valentine, Rhys Salle Auriol Seattle E25 1512 1204.48
267 Houpt, Lucas Scarsdale Fencing Center U 1683 1182.28
268 Freilich, Harrison Fencing Academy Of Philadelphia - North U 1534 1179.64
269 Tan, Daniel The Fencing Center U 1502 1172.84
270 Young, Navin San Francisco Sabre School U 1580 1172.59
271 Huang, Anthony Bergen Fencing Club U 1532 1171.99
272 Leigh, Brayden Olympian Fencing Studio U 1446 1152.26
273 Miller, Blake Columbus Fencing And Fitness LLC U 1599 1137.40
274 Moore, Greyson Halberstadt Fencers' Club U 1514 1116.50
275 Oren, Daniel Tim Morehouse Fencing Club E24 1402 1085.41
276 Kuriyama, Marcus Durkan Fencing Academy U 1576 1084.40
277 Westmoreland-Brown, Cole Sacramento Saber Fencing LLC U 1456 1084.01
278 Liebisch, Milo PDX Fencing U 1424 1078.34
279 Harford, Benjamin Salle Auriol Seattle U 1448 1060.06
280 Parikh, Saavn Frisco Fencing Academy U 1446 1045.77
281 Fugate, Logan San Diego Fencing Center U 1424 1044.91
282 Zheng, Lucas Allegro Fencing Center U 1521 1039.69
283 Cheung, Evan West Coast Fencing Academy U 1356 1009.98
284 Menzies, Liam Zeta Fencing U 1388 1008.51
285 Korzeniowski, Joseph Fencing Academy Of Philadelphia - North U 1795 1005.64
286 Ward, Carter Phoenix Fencing Academy D25 1303 949.38
287 Ravoor, Suvir Renaissance Fencing Club U 1337 925.91
288 Santiago, Roman U 1382 918.62
289 Sochnikov, Jacob Zeta Fencing U 1344 915.14
290 Orlino, Samuel Premier Fencing Academy U 1301 859.10
291 Bradic, Andreja Spartak U 1195 849.73
292 Kim, Derek South Bay Fencing Academy U 1181 817.00
293 Herrera, Stefano Premier Fencing Academy U 1182 775.60
294 Seth, Khalen Midwest Fencing Club U 1324 717.25
295 DeGuzman, Holden Bergen Fencing Club U 1336 713.97
296 Wu, Garrick Premier Fencing Academy U 1182 707.98
297 Shen, Hudson West Coast Fencing Academy U 1270 704.14
298 Shen, Hudson West Coast Fencing Academy U 1270 704.14
299 Chidambaram, Nivedh Sabio Fencing Academy U 1024 655.98
300 Kim, Connor Fencing Academy Of Denver U 1084 635.46
301 Nguyen, Ethan West Coast Fencing Academy U 1033 613.11
302 Singh, Swaran Phoenix Fencing Academy U 1076 485.48
303 Zhang, Leaf Shoreline Fencers Club U 1224 479.43
304 Bhadlikar, Shaunak Globus Fencing Academy U 1193 460.84
305 Kang, Nathan Lone Star Fencing Center U 942 460.29
306 Heimov, Brennan Capital Fencing Academy U 1015 416.74
307 Huang, Jasper Fencing Academy Of Denver U 1318 392.55
308 Patel, Kiran Master Sabre Fencing Academy U 899 200.25
309 Pei, Kennedy Unattached U 652 < 0
310 Vu, Luke Bergen Fencing Club U 693 < 0

Rank is based on the conservative estimate, `mu - 3*sigma`, rather than raw strength alone. Newer or less-certain fencers can still appear lower than someone with a similar average but tighter confidence.